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Why Do "They" Want Americans So Unhealthy? ft. Calley Means

Sat, 01 Feb 2025

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America spends more than any other country on medical care, and its healthcare companies make bigger profits than those of any country. So why are Americans so unhealthy and unhappy? Calley Means visits Charlie to lay out the real state of American healthcare and why RFK Jr. is so important for upsetting the current system. Plus, Charlie listens in to another White House press conference, where Karoline Leavitt is quickly becoming a star.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0.089 - 20.379 Charlie Kirk

Hey everybody, where is Bobby Kennedy's stand in the confirmation fight? We sit down with Callie Means straight from Washington, D.C. to discuss. Email me, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com. That is tpusa.com. Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

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I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

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41.389 - 63.189 Charlie Kirk

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81.278 - 83.381 Calley Means

Great to see you, Charlie. Just in from D.C.

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83.401 - 96.558 Charlie Kirk

You and I both were there. I was in the White House yesterday. You were actually with Bobby Kennedy for his two hearings. Also, you're the co-author of Good Energy. Everyone should check it out. Callie, give us a status report on the front lines on Bobby.

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96.818 - 112.25 Calley Means

Let's take the Dems off the table. I mean, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are two of the largest recipients of pharma dollars, total shills. They were talking about baby onesies. They were acting like they cared about children's health, but they didn't say the words diabetes, obesity, or heart disease, the things that are really the scourge of childhood health right now.

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112.29 - 132.106 Calley Means

They didn't say those words one time in the hearing. So let's take them off the table. The bottom line, Charlie, is we've got to get the Republicans on board. And Bill Cassidy, to his credit, was direct at the end of the last hearing. And he said he's still on the fence. I think your tweet, Charlie, was pitch perfect. I think we need to take Senator Cassidy's word that he is a doctor.

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132.527 - 151.677 Calley Means

He does care about public health. And I think he's talking a bit past each other with Bobby Kennedy here. He says his vote's contingent on knowing that Bobby Kennedy is going to maintain trust in science. The truth, as we know as parents, we're not scared for our children's health because of Bobby Kennedy. We are scared because the American Pediatrics is pushing processed food on our kids.

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151.697 - 166.743 Calley Means

We're scared because they're pushing Ozempic and other drugs in our kids as the standard of care. We're scared because still the CDC is saying a six-month-old should get a COVID-19 shot. The public health authorities are responsible for the breakdown of public health. And you know this and I know this. I know you've been very close to Bobby throughout this process.

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167.084 - 184.331 Calley Means

He is helping his life's mission with President Trump is to restore trust in science. You've seen these meetings. I'm shocked. It would shock anyone. I'm not shocked. But behind closed doors, it's not about an ideology. It's truly about getting the NIH money to the best researchers. Yeah, that's what they want to do.

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184.731 - 194.314 Charlie Kirk

So so let me just ask, are there is there any some follow up privately with Cassidy and Bobby? I imagine they can meet as much as they want. I mean, what happens publicly is somewhat performative.

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194.795 - 206.679 Calley Means

I want to talk to the Maha moms, because as we both know, Bobby Kennedy, more than maybe any other cabinet secretary, came in there with a great coalition. It's incredible. You saw it visually at the hearings. I mean, thousands of Maha moms back in the halls.

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207.339 - 223.652 Calley Means

So I want to be really clear to everyone watching, because I know everyone's really fired up, and I think we understand the societal stakes of this nomination. Let's talk to Senator Cassidy with respect, as you did. I think we need to bring him along. The MAHA is a new movement that health is not about the intricacies of Medicare and Medicaid policy.

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224.052 - 241.964 Calley Means

It's about really getting to the root cause of why we're getting sick. And I think Senator Cassidy can be brought along on that. Private conversations, of course those are happening. Of course those are happening. I think he's an independent guy. He's obviously made some decisions we disagree with in the past. But voting to convict the president. But some big ones. This could go a long way.

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241.984 - 261.95 Calley Means

We're going to leave that. Listen, there's some really obviously water on the bridge going backwards. Looking forward, this is what I'd say to him. And honestly, Charlie, I think it's probably what's being said behind closed doors is that he's concerned with public trust in science. And Bobby Kennedy and President Trump, it's promises made, promises kept. And they had two promises in this campaign.

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262.33 - 285.596 Calley Means

It's to return to gold star research. And it was really a positive health future where 95% today of healthcare costs are managing chronic disease. We could have an incentive system where companies are incentivized to reverse disease, to promote longevity. I know me and you read a lot of health blogs and books. We can put that into medicine and incentivize and reward companies.

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285.816 - 300.18 Calley Means

Right now we have a crony capitalist system that profits when we're sick. So there's this positive vision forward that I think they're telling Cassidy behind closed doors. I'll say this, Charlie, and I believe this with all my heart. I believe a yes vote from Senator Cassidy and every Republican senator.

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300.5 - 318.128 Calley Means

I believe they will consider it one of the greatest votes of their career in four years at the end of the Trump administration. I'm not joking about this. I think President Trump will be winning the Nobel Prize. I think science is so we so lost right now. We know the predetermined outcome before we do this study. We are going to get back to asking tough questions.

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318.429 - 325.594 Calley Means

And President Trump, he said it again and again. We're going to figure out why the hell our kids are so sick. And we're going to steer research to that. That's what's going to happen.

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325.934 - 336.683 Charlie Kirk

I want to play a piece of tape here in a second. But just really quick, can you riff how sick our kids actually are? Grandparents sometimes don't realize or recognize that, oh, kids get sick all the time. No, they are chronically not acutely ill.

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337.148 - 356.263 Calley Means

I mean, every parent watching, you and me, I am really, that's what got me into this, along with my mom's death. I am scared about the future our kids are walking into. One in 30 kids in California having autism? That's really, really scary. I'm frankly, to be honest, concerned about the pharmaceutical projects. I'm concerned about the pharmaceutical products that are shoved down kids' throats.

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356.283 - 375.757 Calley Means

40% of teens are on a pharmaceutical right now. We have 50% of teens overweight or obese, and it's 3% in Japan. The Biden administration held this number until after the election, but according to recent reports, 38% of teens are pre-diabetic. We have a devastation among children's health. President Trump held up this graph on the Joe Rogan podcast.

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376.277 - 395.574 Calley Means

It showed we are spending three times more per capita than Europe, which, by the way, has terrible health care policy on health and living 10 years less than our friends in Switzerland or Japan and seven years less than the Italians. There's something really broken about our health incentives. And Bobby Kennedy said it, Charlie. There's nothing more profitable than a sick child.

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395.894 - 405.923 Calley Means

The insurance industry, pharma industry, and hospitals make money when a child is sick with a chronic disease for a longer period of time. And they lose money when a child's healthy. That's the fundamental problem.

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405.943 - 410.006 Charlie Kirk

I mean, it begs the question, then they want you sick because they make more money.

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410.086 - 419.232 Calley Means

And this was really galvanized, I think, you and many other people and these incredible turning point events during the campaign. It's not a slight on any one person. We all know good doctors.

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419.772 - 437.937 Calley Means

But as a simple statement of economic fact, because of the crony capitalism, because of the rigging of our CMS department and our FDA and our NIH, you know, the standard of care if a kid has high cholesterol is a statin. The standard of care if they're a little bit sad is an SSRI. That's all because of the corruption in our agencies, the corporate capture.

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438.737 - 460.641 Calley Means

Doctors aren't talking to kids about healthy eating or functional medicine blood testing or getting outside. These things could be incentivized with our medical system. It's not a woo-woo thing. We spend $4.5 trillion on healthcare. And just as a simple fact, 95% of that is after we get sick. It's managing disease. Again, I mentioned they didn't say the word obesity, diabetes, heart disease.

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461.121 - 482.422 Calley Means

Those chronic conditions are 92% of deaths in America right now. They said the word measles 25 times, the Democrats. 300 Americans, just 300 Americans a year died of measles in 1962 before the vaccine was invented. It's a problem. Right. But we're not focused on the main issue as a health care system. And that's the opportunity that Bill Cassidy, frankly, has with this vote. This is historic.

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483.092 - 496.045 Charlie Kirk

Illness has become very profitable and Bobby Kennedy is going to ruin the annuity business model of keeping our kids sick. I want to play this piece of tape here of the political power of Maha. This is from Megan McCain. Play cut to 36.

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498.147 - 523.018 Unknown

Let me tell you something just really quick. There are a lot of women in my life, including Jessica Krause, who were not Republicans five years ago, that because of Tulsi and RFK came to Trump. I mean a lot. And I would love to see the data on it, particularly with moms post-COVID. If they screw these two people and they don't get confirmed, it is a flesh wound for the Trump administration.

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523.098 - 526.159 Unknown

If Maha goes down and Tulsi goes down, there will be consequences.

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526.899 - 528.16 Charlie Kirk

Is that correct in your estimations?

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529.199 - 538.165 Calley Means

I'm keeping it positive this 24 hours. We're making the positive element. But this is part of the I know. I know. I know that you believe. Well, well, well, the retribution.

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538.205 - 538.485 Unknown

Yeah.

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539.086 - 557.402 Calley Means

So she's implying that there'll be retribution. I want to make the positive spin is that there is a absolute realignment of Republican politics due to Donald Trump. A lot of reasons. But I was talking to John McLaughlin. I know the administration sees this. The Maha Moms is a huge part of it. I mean, it's been called one of the biggest realignments in American politics.

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557.423 - 574.377 Calley Means

And you were a big part of this, Charlie, with young people. But you saw that at the events. The young people were very animated about the Maha thing, about not poisoning kids and then drugging them for profit. The gender gap closed much more than we expected. I think it was supposed to be like 22 points and it was eight. It's my understanding. So the gender gap closed and then independence.

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574.597 - 581.039 Calley Means

I mean, if you said eight years ago that the degree of young people, independence and women were going to come to the Trump coalition, they'd think you were crazy.

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581.099 - 581.499 Unknown

That's right.

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581.66 - 604.01 Calley Means

This was a multifactorial issue, but clearly because the Maha moment. And I would just say we cannot get worse than where we are right now. We are the sickest country in the developed world. Our public health authorities have totally let us down from Fauci on down. Not only that, there's a true, like, very optimistic vision ahead. I mean, Jay Bhattacharya at the NIH is just an incredible pick.

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604.41 - 607.272 Calley Means

Marty McCary at the FDA. I mean, it's just unbelievable.

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607.332 - 608.633 Charlie Kirk

And they're Senate confirmed, too, right?

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608.953 - 623.52 Calley Means

They're Senate confirmed, and I think they'll be great. And they're under the tree of HHS. Yeah. Yeah. And Bobby is an incredible manager. He's a magnetic personality, as you know, but he set the vision and he's going to let them run wild with the mandate to get money to the best researchers.

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624.08 - 645.274 Calley Means

And importantly, reorient our corrupt American Medical Association codes that say right now that a two-year-old can have gender transition surgery. Reorient the codes to incentivize longevity. We can do that. The whole sick care system we have isn't the free market. It's rigged CMS codes that incentivize us to be Dr. Oz will be doing CMS. And he's he's he's a hero. I really.

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645.314 - 654.024 Charlie Kirk

And so just so I understand the lay of the land, is it really all down to Cassidy? What other senators are have yet give us the the bullpen?

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654.464 - 664.806 Calley Means

I'm just giving my brass tacks here. I believe that Cassidy sends a signal to potentially other wobbly ones. And I do believe, I don't want to mince words, as Cassidy goes, so does the vote.

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665.126 - 665.446 Charlie Kirk

Oh, wow.

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666.066 - 683.33 Calley Means

That's my opinion, Charlie. And I think everyone here should be sending positive messages to Cassidy, positive, saying the opportunity for American health. You've got the wobbly ones who voted against Hegseth. And I really think Cassidy is going to set a tone here. I think we've got to get Cassidy.

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683.65 - 688.493 Charlie Kirk

So so with and Cassidy has not signaled either way. He's legitimately undecided.

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688.533 - 692.955 Calley Means

He said at the end of the hearing, actually very directly, that he was torn on this and was going to be talking to Bobby this weekend.

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694.096 - 698.598 Charlie Kirk

So then we also have Susan Collins, Murkowski and McConnell.

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699.258 - 701.079 Calley Means

Collins made some nice comments at the hearing.

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701.119 - 705.702 Charlie Kirk

Collins actually has been more effusive in support than Cassidy, it seems.

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706.084 - 711.045 Calley Means

Oh, absolutely. Lyme disease is a huge issue in her state. Bobby's been a world leader on Lyme disease.

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711.065 - 722.908 Charlie Kirk

And by the way, they were trying to attack Bobby Kennedy for this lab leak. It's almost certainly from a laboratory in Connecticut. I'm sorry. If you look at it, it was like a couple miles away. I don't want to get into this right now.

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723.028 - 724.409 Calley Means

No, it's true. Everyone look at it.

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724.529 - 730.27 Charlie Kirk

Tucker did a whole program on this where Lyme is a very unusual phenomenon in the upper northeast.

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730.45 - 742.238 Calley Means

Senator Bennett, who is a senator from Colorado, a Dem, who was one of my favorite Dems, just disgraced himself. He disgraced himself at this hearing. I know. And he's usually, I sometimes think he's kind of reasonable. He disgraced himself.

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742.258 - 751.365 Charlie Kirk

Well, I don't understand. In the Northeast, that Vermont main corridor, there's a lot of anti-vax or like mom energy against the whole industrial complex.

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751.485 - 760.292 Calley Means

I've learned a lot from you, Charlie. We've got to sprint through the finish line here. I think Collins looks good. I think Lankford looks good. Collins would be great. I think Lankford looks good, but we've got to get Cassie.

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760.352 - 781.225 Charlie Kirk

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825.623 - 835.866 Charlie Kirk

So check it out right now, relieffactor.com. So we're right at that 48-49 vote threshold, right? We're right there. Is that correct, Kelly, on Bobby?

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836.166 - 844.968 Calley Means

That's my read. And I think Cassidy is weathervane. I think he gives a signal if he votes no. I think it's a problem. Just the brass tacks are Cassidy's an influential guy.

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845.785 - 847.986 Charlie Kirk

Yeah, I mean, he's considered to be a medical doctor.

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848.026 - 854.328 Calley Means

The doctor of the Senate. He's the chair of the health committee. And to his credit, he's been a long-term good doctor.

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854.568 - 871.094 Charlie Kirk

I'm going to be so kind. But when I hear that someone's a doctor, I'm like, okay. You have to earn my trust, okay? The title does not... Again, I'm giving him the opportunity, but the title does not guarantee... It's nothing personal against him. I just...

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871.65 - 872.91 Calley Means

There's no question in my head.

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872.93 - 875.131 Charlie Kirk

Trust must be earned in every domain. Absolutely.

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875.411 - 896.655 Calley Means

There's no question in my head that he cares in his head about public health and cares about the American patient. I actually think there's this, it's almost a symbolic thing. He's the traditional system and Bobby represents this new paradigm. He's CMS policy. Bobby's how do we actually incentivize better health? So them merging together, I actually think could be successful.

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896.795 - 901.925 Charlie Kirk

So what is the gentle call to action, positive reinforcement for Senator Cassidy?

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902.461 - 920.168 Calley Means

Yeah, and I know we all have opinions. Not the you better type stuff. No, it's not the threat. I mean, Cassidy said this. I think he said in his career he's never gotten more phone calls than he has this time from the Maha moms. They took down the phone number. Yeah, they're camping out at his office.

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920.728 - 940.184 Calley Means

I mean, I just want to say, Charlie, I mean, channeled by Turning Point and the campaign and now here, This grassroots mobilization around so many issues, but around health. I mean, it's pretty inspiring to see. I mean, there were moms that drove 10 hours with their kids to come to this hearing. It was it was pretty damn cool. And the senators have said they've seen nothing like it in a long time.

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940.264 - 958.1 Calley Means

So he's feeling that. And that, I would say, is both a positive and a negative. Clearly, there's going to be massive ramifications for any Republican. The votes know it's particularly with Bobby Kennedy. But yeah, I just want to say this to everyone. Right now, this is a big vote. We're at a fork in the road for American health.

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958.14 - 968.386 Calley Means

I believe it's a societally destabilizing situation we're in where we are 4% of the world's population, 75% of worldwide pharmaceutical profits, and 60th in life.

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968.406 - 970.867 Charlie Kirk

So we're 4% of the world's population and 75% of all worldwide pharmaceutical profits.

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976.457 - 978.38 Calley Means

And we are 60th in life expectancy.

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978.48 - 990.519 Charlie Kirk

I mean, but you would you would think that if something is tied to population, it's not there are other wealthy countries. So, of course, Europe as a whole is about the same GDP as us. So how is it possible that we're 75 percent?

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991.516 - 1007.35 Calley Means

Let's get into what—and this gets into the positive vision we can all paint. Let's get into what Bobby can actually do. So how are drug prices 10 times more expensive? How are the United States' decisions on more drugs? Well, it's because you first drug the NIH research. The NIH research is 85% pharmaceutical R&D.

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1009.312 - 1029.086 Calley Means

basically saying not what causes Alzheimer's, but to find little band-aids for Alzheimer's. Then the FDA approval process is totally dominated by big pharma. They pay 75% of the budget, and it costs $3 billion to get a therapeutic through, which only necessitates large pharma things, not innovative AI things or not innovative therapeutics from startups.

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1029.426 - 1049.117 Calley Means

Then the FDA approvals underlie the CMS codes, which are the backbone of our economy. 20% of our economy is basically driven by that, our entire healthcare system. So you have this CMS situation where outside groups, literally lobbying organizations, make logic that underlie our entire health care paradigm, which basically wait for people to get sick and then jab a drug gun in their throat.

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1049.137 - 1067.407 Calley Means

There's no reason, Charlie, we don't have more codes in Medicare and Medicaid to be more preventative or to have more root cause interventions. The goal of health care obviously should be the most efficacious way to prevent a reverse disease. As a statement of fact, the Medicare-Medicaid system right now is waiting for people to get sick and then drugging them and managing disease.

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1067.708 - 1085.881 Calley Means

That's by design and it's through corruption. It's through rigging every single step of the value chain. That's why Bobby has told Senator Cassidy, and he means this, the place you need to start is the NIH. You need to get the research on why we're getting diabetes epidemic rates, why we're so much sicker than Europe, whether the food dyes are healthy, which the FDA currently says they are.

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1086.701 - 1095.303 Calley Means

whether all these atrazine, which Alex Jones was right about, it's true. It is true. It is a huge estrogen. It changes our testosterone to estrogen.

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1095.323 - 1097.103 Charlie Kirk

Of course, Alex Jones is right about most of this stuff.

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1097.223 - 1117.767 Calley Means

Not about everything, but about most of these things. This is definitive. It changes testosterone to estrogen. That is banned in every other country, and we are spraying it in our food. By the way, that chemical atrazine specifically comes from China, and it's not used in China. Yeah. So there's real national security implications here. So you start with NIH.

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1118.467 - 1136.193 Calley Means

Then that underlies the FDA approval process. You do regulate the FDA. You have more robust competition for the best therapeutics. And then you get to our code. The gold star, the big kahuna here, Charlie, is the medical codes. Those are totally captured right now. It's a boring part of the world.

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1136.534 - 1152.81 Calley Means

And I think what Bobby and President Trump and this great team he's put together, they can communicate. We've got you. We've got Joe Rogan. We've got independent media ready to carry the church. Megyn Kelly was sitting right behind Bobby at the hearing. We are ready to shine a light on this again and again and again and use the grassroots army to get Americans healthier.

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1153.991 - 1157.935 Charlie Kirk

And it's going to start hopefully soon. So when is the vote? What is the timeline here?

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1158.726 - 1165.717 Calley Means

Cassidy said he's going to talk to Bobby this weekend. Cassidy's on the finance committee, and the finance committee will be voting, the committee that's voting.

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1165.737 - 1167.54 Charlie Kirk

Wait, hold on. Isn't there a health committee too?

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1167.681 - 1171.327 Calley Means

The health committee will not be voting on a committee. So it has to be advanced by the finance committee.

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1171.347 - 1173.41 Charlie Kirk

Yes. I think he'll be okay in committee.

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1174.228 - 1195.506 Calley Means

Cassidy's on that committee and has some sway, but he's on both committees. Yes, but listen, I think we're looking good. He is going to be confirmed. This is an absolute campaign mandate. Bobby's going to be confirmed. I'm taking a lesson from you, which is not let up the gas. I'm taking that lesson I saw from you during the campaign. I might be sounding a little paranoid.

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1195.526 - 1211.945 Calley Means

I think we've got to give a positive message to Cassidy. We should be paranoid, Charlie. Because this is the biggest and most powerful industry in the country. Pharma spends five times more on lobbying than the oil industry. And if we can get this win, it is a huge, huge win for the American people.

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1211.965 - 1258.345 Charlie Kirk

Callie, thank you so much. Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com. Contact your senator with a persuasive, uplifting email. Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here. to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents. The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future.

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1352.488 - 1372.758 Karoline Leavitt

He will continue to deliver on the promises he made to the American people at record speed. The Senate has already confirmed eight of President Trump's exceptional Cabinet nominees, including most recently Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, as you of course know, EPA Secretary Lee Zeldin, and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, who is scheduled to be sworn in later today.

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1373.698 - 1389.521 Karoline Leavitt

We expect the Senate to continue quickly confirming the remainder of President Trump's well-qualified nominees in the days ahead. Earlier this week in the East Room, the president proudly signed the Lakin-Riley Act into law, surrounded by Lakin's loving parents and sister.

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1390.261 - 1407.876 Karoline Leavitt

This common-sense, bipartisan law mandates the federal detention of illegal aliens who are accused of theft, birthing, assaulting a law enforcement officer, and any crime that causes death or serious bodily injury, like the animal who murdered Lakin-Riley in cold blood.

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1408.936 - 1428.112 Karoline Leavitt

This was the first piece of legislation President Trump proudly signed as the 47th President of the United States, and it will guarantee that Lakin did not die in vain. As Lakin's mother, Alison, tearfully said during the signing event, President Trump said he would secure our borders and that he would never forget about Lakin, and he hasn't.

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1428.773 - 1444.819 Karoline Leavitt

He's a man of his word, and we trust that he will fight for the American people. Those are the words of Lakin's mother, and we will never forget them. So to help lock up even more criminal illegal aliens, President Trump signed a memorandum this week to detain them at Guantanamo Bay.

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1445.56 - 1467.438 Karoline Leavitt

This action will expand the Migrant Operations Center at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay to full capacity to provide critical extra detention space for high priority criminal illegals. Our brave ICE agents continue to arrest more and more of these types of individuals every day in communities across our country. And I have more updates for you.

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1468.219 - 1493.091 Karoline Leavitt

On January 27th, 2025, ICE Chicago arrested a citizen of Guatemala who has been convicted of solicitation to meet a child, disturbing, and sentenced to 24 months probation. On January 28th, 2025, ICE Atlanta arrested a citizen of South Korea who has been convicted of nine counts of possession or control of material depicting minors in sexually explicit conduct.

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1494.211 - 1520.263 Karoline Leavitt

On January 28th, ICE New York arrested a Mexican national previously charged by the state of New York for attempted murder and possession of a weapon and assault. And on January 28th, ICE Philly arrested a citizen of Mexico who has been convicted of possession of child pornography. Our message is simple. If you are a criminal illegal alien, you will be arrested and deported.

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1521.932 - 1543.528 Karoline Leavitt

On another important matter, the nation's report card was released this week, and the news is not good. It showed that U.S. students had record low reading comprehension scores last year. It's National School Choice Week, and in part of the president's commitment to education, he just left a roundtable in the Roosevelt Room focused on this issue with leaders from across the country.

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1544.571 - 1559.801 Karoline Leavitt

The national report card showed that 70% of eighth graders were below proficient in reading, and 40% of fourth graders did not even meet the basic reading levels. This is completely unacceptable to the president, and he continues to take aggressive actions to address

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1560.461 - 1580.213 Karoline Leavitt

This education problem in our country, he signed an executive order this week prohibiting federal funding of the indoctrination of our children, including radical gender ideology and critical race theory in the classroom. The president believes American education should focus on cultivating patriotic citizens who are ready for the workforce.

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1580.814 - 1593.395 Karoline Leavitt

And this action will help get schools back on track and defend fundamental parental rights in education. The president also signed a school choice executive order expanding educational freedom and opportunity for families.

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1594.924 - 1615.284 Karoline Leavitt

And in lighter news, but in exciting news, after announcing our briefing room changes on Wednesday, this White House has received more than 10,000 submissions from individuals across the country who are eager to join all of you. We might have to make this room a little bit bigger to do that, who want to participate in our new media seat at a future briefing.

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1615.784 - 1637.712 Karoline Leavitt

So in this seat today, we have the Ruthless podcast. They humbly started by entertaining small audiences on Capitol Hill, but after four years, this program has become one of the most influential podcasts in America. They previously reached number one on the charts and earned over 25 million downloads as they deliver political news with a humorous touch.

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1638.432 - 1647.254 Karoline Leavitt

The hosts are Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, Comfortably Smug, and the man joining us today, John Ashbrook. So with that, I will take your questions. John, please kick us off.

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1647.594 - 1657.888 Unknown

Thank you very much. Caroline, in your first briefing, the media went after this administration for deporting illegal immigrants they claimed were not...

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1660.322 - 1678.679 Karoline Leavitt

And I think that's proven by a number of things, John. Number one, there was a New York Times poll that was released prior to President Trump's inauguration by the New York Times, which of course is a legacy media outlet, that showed that 83% of Americans support deporting the individuals that you mentioned, illegal immigrant criminals.

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1679.219 - 1704.769 Karoline Leavitt

especially those who have committed heinous crimes in the interior of our country. And I received a very actually interesting statistic on this front from ICE this week. 97% of the deportations that this administration has made thus far are of individuals who had a removal order from the previous administration, but were never removed from the interior of our country. So

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1705.129 - 1716.475 Karoline Leavitt

This shows that the previous administration was actually defying our laws, and all this administration is doing is simply following the laws, the immigration laws of this great country. Thanks for the question, John. Anything else?

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1716.495 - 1717.535 Unknown

No, that's it.

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1717.555 - 1718.896 Karoline Leavitt

Okay, great. Peter.

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1719.416 - 1730.879 Unknown

If President Trump is telling us that air traffic control towers are staffed with unqualified controllers, these DEI hires who never should have been brought on, then it's not safe to fly commercially, is it?

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1731.619 - 1753.27 Karoline Leavitt

The president was asked and answered this yesterday and he believes that it is still indeed safe and Americans should feel safe traveling our skies. With that said, Two things can be true at the same time. And we certainly have seen the deterioration of federal hiring standards at the Federal Aviation Administration. And the president wants to increase those standards.

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1753.571 - 1767.857 Karoline Leavitt

He wants pilots in this country who have the great responsibility of flying American citizens by the tens of millions every single day to be chosen for that position based on their merit and their skills. And so the administration will continue to prioritize this.

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1768.328 - 1776.167 Unknown

Was the air traffic controller in the DCA tower on Wednesday night hired or not fired at some point because of his or her race?

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1776.884 - 1793.555 Karoline Leavitt

That investigation is ongoing. And so when we have updates on the exact individuals who were involved in the collision, including the air traffic controller, also the pilots of the helicopter and others, we will confirm those. I don't want to confirm names from this podium today. We're not in a position to do that.

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1794.076 - 1805.683 Karoline Leavitt

But I will say the president has still rightfully pointed out that there has been problems with the aviation industry over the past several years. And this started under Barack Obama in 2014.

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1806.924 - 1824.319 Unknown

And when the President says, on Truth Social, the Black Hawk helicopter was flying too high by a lot, it was far above the 200-foot limit, that's not really too complicated to understand, is it? Is he suggesting a helicopter malfunction or a true error or a crew doing this intentionally?

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1824.599 - 1838.768 Karoline Leavitt

No, the president is simply stating what he said in that true social post, which is that the helicopter was flying higher than it should have been, which is one of the reasons that led to this collision. And the other reasons for that are still being investigated. And I will let that investigation play out.

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1841.191 - 1862.055 Karoline Leavitt

Well, the president has already taken a very strong stance on this issue this week with the signing of his executive order, a few executive orders in this space. First, he made it the official policy of the federal government that there are only two sexes, male and female. and we have directed all federal agencies to comply with that policy.

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1862.475 - 1883.847 Karoline Leavitt

As for congressional legislation to support the President's agenda in this space, and certainly ending the mutilation of young children, the chemical castration of young children, which is a barbaric practice that the vast majority of Americans do not support for young minor children, certainly the President would support Congress's efforts, as he has already made that very clear this week.

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1884.508 - 1884.808 Karoline Leavitt

Jennifer.

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1885.425 - 1894.028 Unknown

On Rick Grinnell's trip to Venezuela to meet with Nicolas Maduro, is there anything you can share on timing on that, what his agenda is, what the mission of that trip is?

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1894.288 - 1908.232 Karoline Leavitt

Yes. So I can confirm that Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela today. I can confirm that Rick Grinnell is going to Venezuela or is in Venezuela with very two immediate directives from the President of the United States.

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1908.952 - 1928.326 Karoline Leavitt

Number one, Rick Grinnell has been instructed to identify a place and ensure that repatriation flights of Tren de Aragua members of Venezuelan nationals who have broken our nation's laws will land in Venezuela. As I said at this podium a few days ago, we expect every nation on this planet

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1928.726 - 1946.501 Karoline Leavitt

to cooperate with the repatriation of our citizens, and so Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela to ensure that can continue. And number two, Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela to ensure that all U.S. detainees in Venezuela are returned home. That's his mission, and I will provide a readout after this trip.

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1946.702 - 1952.627 Unknown

On Bob Hernandez, can you tell us if anyone has approached the White House or the President about a pardon or a commutation?

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1953.067 - 1962.898 Karoline Leavitt

I have not been part of those discussions. If they have, I am not sure if they have, but I won't speculate on potential pardons that may or may not happen. To my awareness, the answer is no. Justin.

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1965.273 - 1976.801 Unknown

Friends of Reuters are reporting that the president has made a decision on the Canada-Mexico tariffs, but that they won't actually be implemented until March 1st. I was wondering if you could confirm that and talk through some of the questions.

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1977.302 - 1988.77 Karoline Leavitt

I saw that report, and it is false. I was just with the president in the Oval Office, and I can confirm that tomorrow, the February 1st deadline that President Trump put into place at a statement several weeks ago

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1989.35 - 2011.054 Karoline Leavitt

The President will be implementing tomorrow 25% tariffs on Mexico, 25% tariffs on Canada, and a 10% tariff on China for the illegal fentanyl that they have sourced and allowed to distribute into our country, which has killed tens of millions of Americans. These are promises made and promises kept by the President.

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2011.074 - 2022.917 Unknown

The President yesterday said that last night he was planning to discuss whether an exemption would be made on oil imports. Do you have any information on what decision he made there, or will there be exemptions at all offered under those?

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2023.418 - 2034.104 Karoline Leavitt

I don't have an update or readout for you on the exemptions, but those tariffs will be for public consumption in about 24 hours tomorrow, so you can read them then. Stephen Nelson.

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2034.851 - 2052.524 Unknown

Thank you very much, Caroline. I have three questions, if that's all right. I'd like to ask you about press freedom and then about two economic matters. On press freedom, on Tuesday, you announced plans to roll back the more restrictive press badge policy by the White House. But there's a different anti-press freedom policy I wanted to ask about.

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2053.485 - 2073.3 Unknown

The Biden White House adopted a mysterious pre-screening process where journalists allowed into large event spaces that in the pre-pandemic-based first Trump term were open to all journalists on campus. This effectively limited the diversity of reporters present and blocked the asking questions that large segments of the American public wanted answered.

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2073.4 - 2077.203 Unknown

As press secretary, can you commit to abolishing this mysterious pre-screening process?

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2078.104 - 2089.357 Karoline Leavitt

There were a lot of mysterious processes that my team and I have had to unravel over the past two weeks that were implemented by the previous White House and in particular the previous press shop here.

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2160.1 - 2167.244 Unknown

It's open press. So just to confirm, this pre-screening thing is something you're working to undo to the maximum extent possible?

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2167.404 - 2170.686 Karoline Leavitt

When we say something is open press, it will mean it's open press.

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2170.846 - 2191.374 Unknown

Economic matters, and I can just ask them both at once. In New York City, Governor Vogel's congestion pricing went into effect this month. Vehicles that drive through parts of Manhattan have to pay a $9 toll. President Trump has made clear his opposition. He said that it's, quote, the most progressive tax known to womankind. Will the administration be trying to block this?

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2191.934 - 2208.605 Unknown

And the second question is, millions, maybe tens of millions of Americans who voted for President Trump were excited about his plans to do away with taxes on tips, overtime, Social Security benefits. But there's uncertainty about the timing of this. So can you clarify for them when this is going to happen?

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2208.625 - 2213.169 Unknown

Does President Trump want to see in the first, all three of those in the first batch of legislation early this year?

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2213.809 - 2231.5 Karoline Leavitt

Well, to answer your question in one swoop, I will say that President Trump is committed to lowering taxes for Americans and cutting taxes for Americans. As for congestion pricing in New York, I do know that the President spoke with Governor Hochul about that. I don't have any, you know, actions, so to speak, to read out for you on that issue today.

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2232.241 - 2253.115 Karoline Leavitt

Number two, when it comes to no taxes on tips and Social Security, The president has made it very clear to our allies on Capitol Hill that is a critical piece of this reconciliation package, and he expects that his tax cuts from 2017, which put a lot more money back into the American people's pockets, those must be implemented and no tax on tips.

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2253.155 - 2256.517 Karoline Leavitt

The president is intent on delivering on that promise, and he will get it done.

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2256.897 - 2258.598 Unknown

time also as part of reconciliation?

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2258.798 - 2260.179 Karoline Leavitt

Yes. Sure.

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2260.219 - 2266.964 Unknown

Thanks, Caroline. Can you guarantee that those tariffs won't increase prices for Americans, including at the gas pump and the grocery store?

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2266.984 - 2286.237 Karoline Leavitt

I think Americans who are concerned about increased prices should look at what President Trump did in his first term. He effectively implemented tariffs, and the average inflation rate during the first Trump administration was 1.9%. In fact, when President Trump left office, it was 1.4%. So President Trump is going to do everything he possibly can to

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2286.457 - 2293.522 Karoline Leavitt

to cut the inflation crisis that the previous administration imposed on the American people, and he will continue to effectively utilize tariffs.

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2293.542 - 2297.345 Unknown

If those tariffs do increase prices for Americans, will the administration reverse them?

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2297.645 - 2317.44 Karoline Leavitt

That's a hypothetical question, and the President is intent on ensuring that he effectively implements tariffs while cutting inflation and costs for the American people. And, you know, the media has this way of just looking at everything in a microscope rather than looking at the whole-of-government economic approach that this President is taking. He will effectively implement tariffs.

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2317.46 - 2339.547 Karoline Leavitt

He's also, as I just answered from Steven's question, committed to tax cuts. He's also clearly committed, as evidenced by his executive orders, to unleashing the might of our energy industry, which we know will eventually drive down inflation. And all the other economic measures that this president has made will have a Trump-incoming economic boom, just like we saw in our first term.

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2339.587 - 2342.128 Karoline Leavitt

And has the White House found any... Fox Business, yes.

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2342.228 - 2354.639 Unknown

You're welcome. Justin Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, said today that if the U.S. imposes tariffs, he will respond and he will not relent until the tariffs are removed. Are we seeing the start of the trade war with him?

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2355.459 - 2363.427 Karoline Leavitt

I don't think so. I think the President is going to implement those tariffs tomorrow, and he will respond to Mr. Trudeau's comments in due time, I am sure.

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2363.827 - 2367.991 Unknown

What type of things have to happen? What does the administration need to see in order to avoid those tariffs?

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2368.764 - 2386.316 Karoline Leavitt

Well, the tariffs are incoming tomorrow on Canada. And the reason for that is because both Canada and Mexico have allowed an unprecedented invasion of illegal fentanyl that is killing American citizens and also illegal immigrants into our country. In fact, I have more language for you right here.

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2386.816 - 2403.508 Karoline Leavitt

Canada, Mexico and China, which, as I mentioned, President Trump will implement a 10 percent tariff on China tomorrow. have all enabled illegal drugs to pour into America. The amount of fentanyl that has been seized at the southern border in the last two years alone has the potential to kill tens of millions of Americans.

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2403.588 - 2412.334 Karoline Leavitt

And so the President is intent on doing this, and I think Justin Trudeau would be wise to talk to President Trump directly before pushing outlandish comments like that to the media.

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2412.414 - 2435.019 Unknown

Yes, Lindsay. You're interrupting your calling, but sure. I called on Lindsay. The president this morning said the Blackhawk helicopter was flying too high. I'm wondering if he's basing that on what he learned from investigators. And if you could offer a little bit more of a window into how he is keeping abreast of this investigation. Sure. Is the NTSB briefing him separately?

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2435.119 - 2438.76 Unknown

Is he meeting in the Situation Room? You just offer a window into that.

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2438.82 - 2448.628 Karoline Leavitt

Yeah, the president based that statement on truth because it is truth and it's fact, and it was relayed to him by the authorities who are overseeing the investigation into this horrific plane collision.

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2448.928 - 2467.983 Karoline Leavitt

And the president, as I said in my opening remarks, continues to be briefed on the collision by everybody across his cabinet, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Defense, the NTSB, who the commissioner there was in the Oval Office with him yesterday. Lindsay. Lindsay, go ahead. Lindsay, go ahead. Thank you.

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2468.103 - 2483.995 Unknown

The CIA actually revealed that they do also believe that COVID-19 was from a lab leak in Wuhan, China. How is the president planning on responding to this additional intel from the CIA? And will it impact how he responds to them with tariffs?

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2484.135 - 2498.528 Karoline Leavitt

Yeah, kudos to John Ratcliffe for revealing that truth and that fact to the American people. Many years too late, the Biden administration... We now know that to be the confirmable truth. It took many years for it to come out, but the president was right in this instance again. Sure.

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2499.188 - 2513.314

Caroline, thank you. I wanted to ask about Secretary Rubio's trip to Panama first. Sure. What did the conversations look like with President Trump on that? The president of Panama says it is, quote, impossible to negotiate over the canal. So what are you expecting from this visit?

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2513.654 - 2533.767 Karoline Leavitt

So I have not been present for Secretary Rubio's conversations with President Trump about the Panama Canal. I have been present for President Trump's own thoughts on the Panama Canal, and you've all seen them as well in his public statements that he has shown. He believes it's unacceptable that the canal is essentially run by the Chinese Communist Party.

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2533.807 - 2545.795 Karoline Leavitt

If you look at both ends of the canal, massive Chinese Communist Party linked companies run the canal. That's unfair to the American people, many of whom lost their lives many years ago building this canal.

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2545.835 - 2557.519 Karoline Leavitt

The American taxpayers are paying millions of dollars for the canal, and the President believes it's in our national interest as a nation for Secretary Rubio to go there and begin these discussions, and that's exactly why he's doing that. Sure.

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2557.699 - 2573.886 Unknown

Thank you very much, Caroline. Is the United States in the process of pulling out of Syria militarily? Because the President wanted to do that in his first term as well, and he had a lot of pushback from the Pentagon and Congress. And based on what he said yesterday, is he considering doing that in a short time?

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2574.466 - 2584.272 Karoline Leavitt

The President was asked and answered this question yesterday, and he, as the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military, reserves the right to review troop deployments overseas at any point in time.

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2584.452 - 2585.513 Unknown

Is that a topic right now?

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2585.713 - 2585.933 Karoline Leavitt

Yes.

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2586.774 - 2604.668 Unknown

Thank you. Two questions. So we now know that the staffing was not normal at the air traffic tower, and so with the government freezing the hiring, of new federal workers and offering buyouts, are you not afraid that more incidents of different kind could happen with less staffing in different agencies?

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2604.928 - 2622.784 Karoline Leavitt

Well, the President is intent on ensuring that we are increasing staffing at these agencies, and that's why he signed a very strong executive order on his second day in office, immediately terminating DEI hiring practices at the FAA. He also, following the tragic crash, as you all know, in the Oval Office,

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2622.984 - 2638.716 Karoline Leavitt

yesterday, signed a memorandum directing an immediate assessment of the FAA to ensure the federal government is maintaining the highest personnel and aviation safety standards. And I would also just say there's a cultural piece to this as well. If you are an American who has spent

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2639.236 - 2661.841 Karoline Leavitt

many years studying aviation and you graduate from school and you're an air traffic controller based on skill and merit, and then you apply for a job and you're forced to fill out a biographical questionnaire asking you the color of your skin and asking you where you're from in details that aren't relevant at all to the job description, I think that deteriorates the morale of people in this industry.

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2661.901 - 2682.106 Karoline Leavitt

And if you talk to people in this industry, they'll tell you that. In fact, many of them filed a lawsuit against the FAA a couple of years ago under Joe Biden's administration because they were denied positions because of this DEI hiring practice that was putting identity politics over merit and skills. That's unacceptable.

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2682.186 - 2699.491 Karoline Leavitt

And I think just to put a fine point on this, because this is the third or fourth question I've answered on this subject, When you are flying on an airplane with your loved ones, which every one of us in this room has, do you pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to your destination, or do you pray that the pilot has a certain skin color?

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2699.511 - 2704.212 Karoline Leavitt

I think we all know the answer to that question, and as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense. Rob Crilley.

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2704.252 - 2714.795 Unknown

Yeah, I'd just like to follow up on that last question, Ashley. Has there been any sort of assurance from the FAA that they will immediately improve staffing levels, given the reports of not normal staffing levels always?

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2714.955 - 2722.601 Karoline Leavitt

Oh, absolutely. You had Secretary Duffy here yesterday at the White House at this podium saying that he is on it, and we can all trust that he definitely will be.

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2722.941 - 2725.363 Unknown

John Decker. Thanks a lot, Carol.

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2726.844 - 2729.846 Karoline Leavitt

Yes, I did. Thank you very much. As long as your name's still John Decker.

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2730.206 - 2738.533 Unknown

Absolutely. Thank you. The President's meeting today with the founder and CEO, Evan Video. What is that meeting concerning, and who sought that meeting?

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2739.387 - 2747.231 Karoline Leavitt

I don't have details on this. It's a private meeting. It will take place at 2.30 p.m. I'll try to get there in time, and I can let you know after. How's that?

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2747.531 - 2765.901 Unknown

On Guantanamo Bay, can you give more details about setting up that detention facility at Gitmo? How will that come about? What's the timing in terms of standing it up? And, of course, this has happened before during the Clinton administration. Yeah, that's right. detainees of Cuban and Haitian descent were both detained at Guantanamo.

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2765.981 - 2769.123 Unknown

Are you looking at that model in setting up this detention facility?

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2769.404 - 2786.435 Karoline Leavitt

Secretary Hegseth, I believe, was on television this morning answering this question, and he said that the Department of Defense is already on it. He has directed his agency to ensure that Gitmo is increasing their capacity for beds. And that's exactly what President Trump's executive order did. It directed

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2787.316 - 2799.286 Karoline Leavitt

Secretary Hegseth and also Secretary Noem to expand the Migrant Operations Center at the Naval Station to provide for this extra detention space. And as Secretary Hegseth confirmed this morning, that operation is underway.

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2799.707 - 2805.472 Charlie Kirk

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