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Trump's Favorite Word: Tariffs

Mon, 03 Feb 2025

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President Trump has called "tariff" the most beautiful word in the English dictionary. Charlie explains why, and digs deep into what's driving the president's new tariffs against Mexico, Canada, and China. Former Trump economic guru Peter Navarro joins to explain why "trade war" is a misnomer and more. Become a member for ad-free episodes at members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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1.51 - 25.94 Natalie Kitro-Eff

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitro-Eff. This is The Daily. Last week, financial markets went into a panic over an obscure Chinese tech startup called DeepSeek. That company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it.

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27.472 - 57.804 Natalie Kitro-Eff

Today, my colleague Kevin Roos, a tech columnist and the co-host of the podcast Hard Fork, on how DeepSeek caught us all off guard. It's Monday, February 3rd. Hi, Kevin. Hello.

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58.504 - 59.224 Kevin

So great to be here.

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59.965 - 67.408 Natalie Kitro-Eff

So let's jump in. Kevin, how did this giant AI tech freakout begin? Tell us that story.

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67.908 - 85.917 Kevin

So the freakout really started in earnest with a Chinese AI company called DeepSeek. And DeepSeek had released a new AI model. You know, models are released all the time. Generally, they don't make international news. But this model was different in a few ways.

88.914 - 94.436 Unknown

DeepSeek released its new chatbot app, which is said to perform as well as ChatGPT.

94.736 - 106.079 Kevin

One of them was that it just appeared to be a really good model, like better than the leading Chinese models at the time and on par or close to on par with the leading American models.

106.599 - 109.941 Unknown

A new AI king was crowned today. Well, at least for now.

110.141 - 112.142 Kevin

And so the DeepSeek app.

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