The indispensable cog (Friends)

1504.859 - 1527.038 Dave Rosenthal

So it's like basically saying, do whatever it takes to move the mission forward, move the product forward, whatever it is that you're working on, move that forward and sort of know exactly what kind of management you're on around you, if at all, right? That kind of thing. So Again, I think he was speaking to startups and scale-ups, companies that are not huge, massive empires.