Reinventing Kafka on object storage (Interview)

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Well, you know, it was a VM on Proxmox, so I didn't care that I could just throw away. It wasn't my own machine. I was safe. That's a good layer. It did spin up, and then it gives you a URL you can go to to log in. And next thing you know, you're looking at a cluster. So I like that aspect about it. Whose idea was it to come up with that demo? I mean, it's very hacker. It's very developer.