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Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters

452.732 - 472.389 Tommy Vietor

And this might have just been a horrible accident here. We'll figure it out, right? But I saw the same things you did, like people blaming the air traffic controller shortage or the buyout proposal, or like, you know, firing the head of the TSA. And my instinct was to find that gross. And then I saw Trump this morning, and I thought, I don't know, maybe I'm not built for politics anymore, Tim.

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