The Bulwark Podcast
Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters
Tommy Vietor
I've been thinking about this a lot. I've actually taken your counsel. I'm happy to be public about this. I find Steve Bannon very interesting. I listen to his show often. I think... When you listen to Ben and talk, you're usually like a couple of weeks ahead of the curve on where the mega movement is going. I would like to better understand what he thinks Trump 2.0 is like.
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