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Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters

282.896 - 303.258 Tim Miller

Yeah, maybe there's political value. I don't know. But just from a human standpoint, it's just so atrocious. Oh, for sure. There are people that... Many people that lost loved ones, and I saw an interview last night with a local news, you know, a guy waiting for his wife, hoping that she survived. Obviously, she didn't survive.

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