Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters

2720.659 - 2738.435 Tim Miller

And I played him a clip of Gretchen Whitmer and I hate to pick on Gretchen Whitmer because I think this is across the board, something that all Democrats are doing, but I just want, I just want to use it as an example because she is type of person that might be up in 2028 and because it is just spot on what, um, what we're talking about here. So let's listen to Gretchen Whitmer on CBS. Yes.