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Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters

1164.469 - 1185.349 Tim Miller

These guys like Trump and Kennedy, they're pretending that they're going after the status quo, but they're not really. They're taking cash for themselves. They've now aligned themselves with the richest men in the world. I don't know. I'm just spitballing live here. But I do think maybe that's a more fruitful line than, I guess, going after him for being a kook. I don't know.

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