The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Don't Descend into Darkness
Tim Miller
Yeah. You know, I mean, it's not like you become Deborah Birx. Yes. You become Deborah Birx. You go and you become Deborah Birx, who by all accounts is a serious person that just got totally sullied and her reputation ruined. Well, you know, while she tried to nudge Donald Trump to do better.
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