The Bulwark Podcast
Michael Steele: Gum Up the Works
Michael Steele
And so, yeah, when you're sitting there looking at the numbers, they were telling you one thing, but voters were saying something else on the ground, just as they did in 2016. And I just felt that all the efforts that folks like you and me in working with Democrats in the democracy space, they still didn't get what the fight was about.
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