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Michael Steele: Gum Up the Works

1078.314 - 1105.476 Michael Steele

Because the way you do that is by leveling up what evidence you have. When you go after USAID, then put the evidence out there. And don't just cherry pick something out of a budget line that's part of a bigger budget. We can all do that. That's no reason to shut down an agency because they spend $30,000 on something you don't like out of a $100 million budget, OK?

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