The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: Putin's Weakness
Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling
This was in, oh gosh, 2011, I think. This wasn't the first time I was in Russia, but it was the first time we had this exchange. And when I went over to see his forces... Everything I saw was a demonstration. Everything that he was telling me was a training event was just a rote exercise that people had practiced multiple times over and over for show.
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