The Bulwark Podcast
Jon Favreau: Funny and Horrible
Jon Favreau
I'm an Obama person through and through. And so I will always be hopeful. But I am much less hopeful than I was when I started that campaign or when I left the White House or even when I started keeping it 1600. And that is a hard thing to wrestle with the state of the world right now. But it's sort of like, you know, what I was saying to you before, it's the only way I
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