The Bulwark Podcast
Jon Favreau: Funny and Horrible
Tim Miller
And I was like, I probably would have tried to position him as best as possible up until that debate. I probably would have done the same things up until that debate, I think. I probably would have been wrong to do it, but I think I probably would have. But there's no way that – and I can say this because I did it in 2012.
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