The Bulwark Podcast
Jon Favreau: Funny and Horrible
Jon Favreau
We need to be right and we need to be right at any cost. And so it doesn't matter what we do because the belief and the ideology is more important than actually bringing people along. And look, I get the impulse, I get the frustration, but that path has never worked. That path has never worked. It doesn't lead to a good place.
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