The Bulwark Podcast
Ben Stiller: 'Severance,' but Real Life
Ben Stiller
Maybe the first time around, it was more about Trump. And then this time around, it's more about the realization that our country... is really deeply divided. For me, it's less about the fact that he won by a majority and that many, many, many people are willing to go down that road. And what is that? So that's actually something that it's always, I think, been about.
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