The Bulwark Podcast
Ben Stiller: 'Severance,' but Real Life
Tim Miller
The other Spiro thing that is actually interesting is he, uh, I mean, he was on the fake news stuff. He was really kind of the earliest person to weaponize that. And it goes back, I mean, I'm sure there was somebody that made, of course, people complained about the media always, but like to really weaponize it and like mass mobilize people.
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