The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Planning for a Techno-Oligarchic Regime
Anne Applebaum
And all of these people, everybody who's in the army or in the police or wherever, they all also live in this country that has been ruled by this unbelievably brutal system for a long time. And they all have cousins and friends and relatives and acquaintances who were in prison or who were tortured or who are refugees because everybody just everybody does in a state like that.
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