The Bulwark Podcast
Andrew Weissmann: A MAGAtocracy and a Babytocracy
Tim Miller
We should not despair and be without all hope that somebody might do the right thing in these moments. I'm not saying we should be gullible or taken advantage of or be loosey with the football here, but... In strategic moments and moments of conscience and crisis, sometimes people do the right thing. We saw it with Mike Pence. We've seen it before.
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