Episode 734 | The 20 Year Bootstrapper (With Ian Landsman)

451.021 - 473.31 Ian Landsman

You know, I don't know. I'd never, I guess I wouldn't have thought it would be exactly like that in the beginning necessarily. I think what I've done is since it's been profitable, it's given me flexibility to do other things along the way. So like I ran Laracon conferences, both in world and online. So like similar to what, you know, you've done with MicroConf as like a way to explore things.