Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 734 | The 20 Year Bootstrapper (With Ian Landsman)
Ian Landsman
Yeah, so those don't bother me at all. There's lots of help, you know. whatever, variations. But I thought the spot was kind of my unique thing. I like the spot. And Dharmesh Shah, who's the co-founder of HubSpot, was in Joel on software with us and kind of in our circles, right? And then he starts HubSpot and stole my spot. And so now it's HubSpot.
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