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Conan The Bacterium's Superpower: Resisting Radiation

Fri, 13 Dec 2024

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In the 1950s, scientists exposed a tin of meat to a dose of radiation that they expected would kill all forms of life. But one organism defied the odds and lived: Conan The Bacterium. Turns out this microorganism, known to science as Deinococcus radiodurans, is capable of surviving extreme levels of radiation — thousands of times the amount that would kill a human. So what's Conan's secret?Want more stories about the microbial world? Let us know by emailing us at [email protected]!Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What microorganism can survive extreme radiation?

33.345 - 53.223 Jessica Young

All that on this episode of Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. OK, Ari, where do you want to start?

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53.623 - 61.907 Unknown

I'm intrigued that there is a radiation resistant microorganism, this like super, super tiny little thing. What is it?

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Chapter 2: How did Conan the Bacterium earn its nickname?

62.047 - 75.654 Emily Kwong

Oh, totally. OK, so formally, this bacteria is called Deinococcus reuterans. It was discovered back in the 1950s and has been long known to withstand radiation doses thousands of times higher than what it would take to kill a human or any other living thing.

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75.894 - 82.619 Jessica Young

Which is why scientists have given it this funny nickname, Conan the Bacterium, a resilient superhero of the microbial world.

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Chapter 3: What is the secret behind Conan's radiation resistance?

82.9 - 86.843 Unknown

Do kids today even know what Conan the Barbarian is? I feel like that's such a dated reference.

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87.023 - 88.504 Jessica Young

True. Email us, kids. Let us know.

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89.425 - 95.73 Unknown

I'm assuming scientists have just been dying to find out the secret to this Conan the Bacterium's radiation resistance ever since.

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96.03 - 116.278 Emily Kwong

Yeah, definitely. Because the implications could be really huge, like helping protect astronauts from radiation in space or other kinds of medical applications. But over the years, scientists have suspected that the bacteria's radiation shield has probably something to do with these ingredients inside of its cells, like phosphate, manganese, and peptides.

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117.261 - 124.767 Ari Shapiro

question has been, how are these things coming together? The magic of how these things come together has been a mystery.

125.027 - 131.833 Jessica Young

This is Michael Daly, a professor of pathology at the Uniformed Services University, who has studied the Conan bacteria for decades.

132.159 - 133.56 Unknown

Please tell me he has solved the mystery.

134.08 - 149.089 Emily Kwong

Well, with the help of Brian Hoffman, yes. Brian's a chemist from Northwestern University. And conveniently, he has access to a tool that allows you to see what's happening inside a living cell and study his chemistry. So he and Michael partnered up. And Brian says going into the research.

149.57 - 159.396 Brian Hoffman

I never confessed to Mike at the time. I absolutely believed that the efficacy was just the sum of the pieces.

Chapter 4: What implications does this research have for space travel?

165.313 - 179.638 Brian Hoffman

But it turns out... Oh my God, it is more than the sum of its parts. It's something new that forms when you put the pieces together. which makes it better than one or the other, is that the combination, they interact with each other.

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179.738 - 186.72 Unknown

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Amazing. Like a scientific actual application of that metaphorical artistic idea.

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187.14 - 201.464 Jessica Young

Yeah, look, when combined, these three, phosphate, manganese, and peptides, offer astounding radiation protection. The details about this appear in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and Michael says this breakthrough means big things for the future.

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201.94 - 213.463 Michael Daly

We now have a much better understanding of the nature of the complex and how it is formed, which means we can now try and think of ways of making them better.

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Chapter 5: How can we combat the loneliness epidemic?

213.963 - 223.485 Emily Kwong

Michael says that he hopes that this can lead to innovations. For example, a medication that astronauts can take to make them more radiation resistant before, you know, long missions to Mars.

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224.019 - 234.026 Unknown

Cool. All right, let's move on to the second topic, how to help with the loneliness crisis, which we know affects millions of people in the U.S. of all ages. We've been hearing about it for years. What's new?

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234.306 - 251.879 Jessica Young

Yes, we have a very lonely society, and there are a lot of studies out there showing this, including the National Poll on Healthy Aging from the University of Michigan. Now, for six years, the poll gathered household data from older Americans ages 50 to 80 about how lonely they are, loneliness being defined as feeling a lack of companionship.

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252.318 - 264.964 Emily Kwong

Yeah. And after a spike in loneliness in the first few years of the COVID pandemic, the poll found that this year it's back down to pre-pandemic levels, that 33 percent of older adults feel lonely at least some of the time.

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265.344 - 266.944 Unknown

That's still a lot of people.

267.165 - 283.765 Jessica Young

Yeah. Yeah. One third of older adults. It's a lot. And an outside researcher thinks this could be an undercount. Geriatrician Thomas Cujo at Johns Hopkins University is especially worried about older adults who are, say, homebound or cognitively impaired and may not take part in a poll like this.

Chapter 6: What recent findings exist about loneliness in older adults?

284.192 - 300.462

We all may experience loneliness at points in our lives, but I think it's the longer experience of it, our persistence that really leads to someone to know that negative health outcomes that we talk about in terms of increasing risk for cardiovascular disease, in terms of increasing the risk for dementia.

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300.682 - 306.806 Emily Kwong

And to that point, a 2022 study found that being chronically lonely can make people three times more likely to develop dementia.

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307.086 - 311.569 Unknown

So what do the researchers recommend on how to bring those loneliness numbers down?

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312.239 - 324.304 Jessica Young

Yeah, lead author Preeti Malani wants everyone to think of loneliness as a health problem, like cancer or heart disease, as something that can be treated and prevented. We can actively cultivate human connection.

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324.764 - 329.786 Unknown

We can all walk across the street. We can knock on people's doors. We can make plans to visit.

330.066 - 338.83 Emily Kwong

Or find community, join book clubs, faith groups. The NPR Shots blog recently profiled nonprofits that pair older adults with teens to address the loneliness crisis.

339.215 - 347.541 Jessica Young

And there's medical interventions, too, like getting fitted for hearing aids so those who are hard of hearing can connect like we are now through good old-fashioned conversation.

347.801 - 356.788 Unknown

Oh, interesting. A medical solution to this social problem. Well, speaking of hearing, let's go to the final story, how some animals can restore their hearing.

356.828 - 365.755 Emily Kwong

How do they do that? It's cool. By regenerating hair cells in their inner ears. I mean, humans have these hair cells, too, but when they're damaged, they don't come back.

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