#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah

5001.243 - 5024.181 Lindy Li

There are different gradations. Like, the people that I, the people that, I'm sorry if this sounds like leaders or anything, but, like, when, at donor events, they're, like, venture capitalists, they're Silicon Valley, um, You know, they're investment bankers. They're not thinking that way. But the activists, for sure. They want to open the borders. They don't want national borders.