When do you know it’s time to stop drinking? (re-broadcast)

2168.786 - 2188.86 PJ Vogt

And I also noticed that there were friendships I had with buddies who, like, we'd go to the bar and drink and catch up where I could replace that with coffee and it'd be fine. And there were friendships I had where once you took substances out, the friendships just didn't work. Whether it was the person didn't want to see me or we had less to talk about. And it was... It was really surprising.