What if ayahuasca made you stop podcasting?

1200.276 - 1221.927 PJ Vogt

Conversation shows are a much more high-wire act. They usually work by being provocative, but they have to be strategic in their provocations. Even if you're a bomb-throwing anti-woke provocateur, Yeah, you might not care what blue sky or New York podcast critics think about your show, but everyone has an audience. And that audience lives in their head in ways that are quite powerful.