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Is there a sane way to follow this election?
PJ Vogt
Like, I could kind of see a person who, to me, and I think this was also your interview with him, where he was trying to find a way to take more recent, more progressive ideas and convert them into a language that felt more traditional and American. And I was like, okay, I get that. Like, I get that argument. I can follow that argument. Yeah.
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