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A stubborn lunatic’s guide to making great art
PJ Vogt
That was pretty good. Yeah. Or do you want to do the thing that might not work, and then you have to have a meeting? And, like, the meeting goes badly. Right. Yeah. But it's funny, you know, what I get from this conversation with you, it's so funny to compare podcasting to film and television because they're like cities and we're just like some little like highway town.
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