302 | Chris Kempes on the Biophysics of Evolution

3209.266 - 3235.215 Chris Kempes

I mean, it's countless papers written about what was first. I mean, it's even gotten to the point where we say, well, is that a mitochondria first? Yeah. Is that a phagocytosis first argument? And so people really are trying to work through the ordering and have big debates about the ordering. And we don't have any fossils to tell us because these things are goopy and don't preserve well.