292 | Jonathan Birch on Animal Sentience

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It is very common to cook crabs and lobsters by boiling them alive, and they thrash around a little bit, but you say, well, that's just an instinctive reflex reaction. That's not experiencing pain in the same way that we are. So regardless of what your opinions about it are, we should be able to think about this. rationally, coolly, calmly, okay? It's hard because we get very emotional.