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Trump wins: where the hell do we go from here? w/ Katy Balls + Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP
Katy Balls
But I think there's a question on immigration, other areas and how she matches Farage. And moving all the way to reform means you also will lose some votes the other way. So all Tory leaders try and find this almost third way. But I think, you know, even looking around that shadow cabinet table, it is quite one nation in some ways.
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