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The Tories lose their minds (again) - can Starmer hold against the far right?
Ian Dunt
But someone who's always cowardly, without someone who's too brave, will die very quickly. You look for the moderate middle. But actually, there's another way of looking at this stuff, which is about the centrism of the whole. And it's basically to say, what are you? You're not looking for the middle ground, but you are non-tribal. You are non-ideological.
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