The Tories lose their minds (again) - can Starmer hold against the far right?

2237.273 - 2260.349 Nadia Whittome

I think the Conservatives sold us this myth over the last 10, 15 years that government spending was like a household budget and you don't spend what you don't have. But actually, governments have to borrow to invest in our public services. And that not just improves people's lives, most importantly, but it also, if you're talking about economic growth, it grows the economy too.