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The Tories lose their minds (again) - can Starmer hold against the far right?
Nish Kumar
It is interesting to come away from, I guess, as Ian has done, writing a book about centrism and then not necessarily feel closer to defining what it is. But I guess by definition, if you're talking about cherry picking lots of different ideas with no fixed ideology, that is going to be quite a hard thing to pin down.
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