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The Tories lose their minds (again) - can Starmer hold against the far right?
Nish Kumar
Something you said at the start of the conversation, if Salma's pitch is dignity, one of the ways that he talks about dignity is dignity manifesting itself in public service and public office, that it does sort of, it sort of presents a problem for him insofar as any kind of indiscretion is likely to reflect poorly on somebody that is supposed to conduct themselves like the proverbial grown-up.
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