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The Tories lose their minds (again) - can Starmer hold against the far right?
Ian Dunt
But nevertheless, in terms of how he talks, he's like, I am the enemy of the nativists. I'm pro-open. Starmer is not like that at all. He is centrist on the up-down as well as the left-right. He's basically like, no, that shit, that culture war shit, destroys a left-wing electoral coalition.
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