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Just Stop Politics - 2024 Wrapped! w/ Desiree Burch and Liz Bates
Liz Bates
Look, I think at that point we were living in the shadow of the kind of Boris Johnson era, right? There was so much incompetence, so much lying, party gate, all of that. And I think that by the time we got to Frank Hester, under normal circumstances, that would have been a much bigger scandal. Yeah.
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