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Just Stop Politics - 2024 Wrapped! w/ Desiree Burch and Liz Bates
Liz Bates
At least 1945. Exactly. Exactly. Right. So they they spend time, you know, in some ways it feels quite separate from politics day to day, but it's intellectual. It's thinking about the future, a vision of a country and a world that is different from the one that you're in now that has never been done before. So, you know, look at Thatcher and the way that she privatised everything.
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