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Just Stop Politics - 2024 Wrapped! w/ Desiree Burch and Liz Bates
Coco Kahn
And I think as well, I mean, going back to that initial thought of, okay, five months later when he says change, he was saying change all along. Do we finally believe it? Well, that's the crucial word, change. Is it change? Is anything changing or is it just managed better? And do we need managed better?
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