Pod Save the UK
Just Stop Politics - 2024 Wrapped! w/ Desiree Burch and Liz Bates
Desiree Burch
And in terms of we're not going back to politics the way they used to work. Like, you know, and ultimately we were the establishment in this case. I mean, Brian Eno called this right after the 2020 election and saying, basically, I don't know why people are celebrating.
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