Pod Save the UK
Is Britain’s benefits system broken? w/ Caroline Selman and John Pring
Nish Kumar
And so I think probably James Cleverley is trying to avoid that tag being labelled on the British Conservative Party. Because also, let's face it, like Suella Braverman, Kemi, Jenrick, they're pretty weird. Jenrick is a weird guy. He talked about the fact that he gave his daughter the middle name Thatcher. That's weird.
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