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Inside out: How to fix the UK’s prison system + Labour embraces unpopularity

142.453 - 164.369 Nish Kumar

Listen, I think the case that I think the Labour Party is trying to make is that by means testing these payments, you can make a meaningful saving by making sure the money doesn't go to people that don't necessarily need it. But I think it is also... very difficult because there is always a concern that people will fall between the cracks when you make this kind of cut.

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