Inside out: How to fix the UK’s prison system + Labour embraces unpopularity

1308.593 - 1334.553 Pia Sinha

And one of the things that they said is that, and they've got a right-wing government recently appointed, so they were concerned about what the implications of that would be. They said, but the way that the relationship between the politicians and the civil servants work is that the politicians don't interfere with civil service duties. They respect their neutrality and their independence. Right.