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Inside out: How to fix the UK’s prison system + Labour embraces unpopularity
Pia Sinha
It's partly that and it's a big part. And I think, so we visited Holland a few months ago, a group of us, and we were looking at what they had done. They have successfully managed to reduce their prison population to such a point that they're having to, they've got empty prisons.
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