How ruthless is Keir Starmer willing to be? w/ Anushka Asthana and Josh Babarinde MP

1880.896 - 1904.632 Josh Babarinde MP

And so I wanted to find a way to reduce or if I'm being really utopian about it, eliminate the role that luck plays in shaping people's courses and qualities of life. So they're not you know, punished by the market. They're not forced into particular places by the state, but they and their communities get to decide where they go, what fulfills them and what the future looks like.