How ruthless is Keir Starmer willing to be? w/ Anushka Asthana and Josh Babarinde MP

1199.527 - 1220.583 Anushka Asthana

They argue that half the sentence mentioned working people. So therefore, it's OK to whack the tax on employers. I mean, I'm going to be on the Peston programme later today and we're going to be looking through the statistics about really, if you increase national insurance on employers, there's still a chance that it feeds through to employees in terms of lower wage increase over time.