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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Nish Kumar
Again, I think that kind of glib tone, given the seriousness of that subject matter, was absolutely not appropriate. And again... if your whole thing is I'm a boring, pencil-pushing civil servant, you can't... Flashes of that kind of glibness fundamentally undermine your message as a serious, diligent man, especially given the severity of the subject that the protester was trying to engage him on.
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