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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

583.457 - 599.968 Coco Kahn

I couldn't believe it. I just can't believe that we're having any conversation around benefits that isn't about the fact that the sums are so paltry that the people who claim them, who many of them are in work and also unwell, are forced to choose between heating and eating, which I think should be what we talk about when we talk about benefits.

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