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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Nish Kumar
You're absolutely at the core of it saying these people had a point. And you're saying that, you know, if you're saying that these people who smashed up businesses and targeted mosques, that there isn't a relationship between them ratcheting up, you're fucking lying to me. You're literally looking me in the face and telling me that two plus two is five.
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