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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Simon Kuper
And I thought, I can't even really be bothered. I have to go all the way across Paris, see this concert. And I asked my daughter, who's something of an expert, and she said, you would not enjoy it. As for football, I've, as a journalist, covered hundreds and hundreds of football matches, so it would be a bit of a busman's holiday. So, you know, I'd say no thank you to both.
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